February 26, 2020

True Art (or not?)

I painted these oils from photos in art class 40+ years ago. My goal was to paint realism. During a critique, the teacher said my paintings were good because they showed I “knew how to move paint around”. Then he asked if my paintings were “true art”. OUCH!! But the class decided “true art” can be whatever the artist sees and feels without caring what others think. I was happy! But decades later I want to paint more of myself. If I use photos, I don’t want to duplicate them. Painting from inside now makes me happiest (see “Dog from Hell” in my last post - LOL! ).
PS...this post has generated a little discussion, so I’ve added some comment replies. :)
PPS... Concerning what makes “real art”, the title of a blog I’m now following says it all!
The value of Art lies in the eyes of the beholder


                          

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21 comments:

  1. Oh my gosh, you are a true artist...totally amazing. I am in awe of you

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  2. "True art" - now that's a controversial topic!! - Here's my two cents - ;))

    In the quilting world - I don't "get" why some will try to "duplicate" a quilt that has already been "done". Where is the creativity in that? Even if you "change the colors" - it will still look like the "original" - if you did it "well". Classic example - the "Dear Jane" quilt - the original is AWESOME - but all of the copies? - Meh! - LOL - ;))

    That being said - there is value in making a quilt from a "pattern" - you can change up the colors - use your stash - and not have to do the "MATH" - since that is a four-letter word these days. But - to me - it's not "true art" or "creative" - it's the difference between following a recipe and making something up from your own "inner vision" - something "original" - ;))

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    1. Yes, a controversial topic for sure. I agree that there isn’t much creativity in duplicating some things. There is surely some talent though. I tried a “Dear Jane” quilt once using only stash fabrics, some even scraps, and I wilted quickly. It was challenging but even with my own fabrics it didn’t give me a feeling of very much creativity.

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  3. I like the answer from a left handed quilter-a copy is a copy-but then how many can paint as beautifully as you did?? as long as you are not taking credit for the work as being orginals-but painted as you did-I think all is good.

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    1. Good points, Kathy. Painting realistically from another’s depiction could be called a talent, but not sure it would qualify as “true art”.

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  4. I think that tall ship belongs in a museum somewhere. It's absolutely incredible. Me? I guess all I can paint is abstract art or a few backgrounds. You paint both realism and nature. You can definitely take credit for that AND the dog from hell.

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  5. You are really good at moving paint around. Ha ha. But yes, it is one form of art. My choice is to paint from within, although at times I do use photos for reference or inspiration. I think "the dog" falls more into realistic abstract.

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    1. We have that in common, Gene, making art from “within” instead of exactly from the inspiration. I saw a definition of Expressionism and think maybe I'm happiest when close to that. An extreme example is Munch’s “The Scream”, thought to “express his chaotic emotional state at that moment”. Don’t think I want to know what my”Dog from Hell” says about me!

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    2. Gene replied: Ha! The Dog expresses your feelings about the failed vase of flowers. The expression on his face says it all.

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  6. Well slap me in the head!! I once took a class in painting, trying to "copy" a piece the artist teaching the class did. Well, heck, mine looked awful. Was THAT art..heck no. Not because we were trying to copy the artist work, but because I was unable to. So, for me, art is in the creation whether its a painting or a quilt..the EXECUTION is the art.
    xx, Carol

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    1. I like that, “Art is in the execution”. And of course you are right, there are many, many forms of art including sewing and quiltmaking. I think your Slow Stitching pieces, especially “Wishes” about which you wrote something like “your hand and mind took over” are the highest form of artistic expression!

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  7. Just my two cents: Art students copy well-known artists' work as part of their education. To be able to copy the ship as excellently as you did is true art talent, fur sure. I get agitated about art snobs that don't use photos. Using photographs trains your eye to see, and that helps you to see when you paint from life. It helps with eye hand coordination as well. And well, sometimes it's just too cold to sit outside in the snow.
    To paint from within and have that painting mean something or touch a chord in someone else is a gift. If you look at Van Gogh's early drawings-they are pretty lame-they don't really fall into a category of real art. But he was learning. He was copying what he saw. His later work touched hearts because he had spent years honing the craft of seeing, and painting what he saw and also, painting what he felt about what he was seeing.
    You keep painting, Barbara. You are an artist indeed.

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    1. Good points, I never thought of how copying art is training the eye to see! Helping eye/hand coordination is another thought I never had. I think of VanGogh’s art as a kind of Impressionism because what he painted reminds me of something (as opposed to realistically looking exactly like something). It also has movement. Thanks for the insight, Debra!

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  8. I would like to have holidays! your sails calling :)

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  9. I checked your previous painting, and you really paint non-realistic art too. This time you show totally different art. I like both styles.

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  10. Love your paintings! I especially love old barns.
    I love painting landscapes that come from my own imagination.
    I am now a follower of your blog and I look forward to visiting here again...Jan

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  11. Beautiful realism painting ~ you have a talent ~ you are blessed ~

    Happy Moments to You,
    A ShutterBug Explores,
    aka (A Creative Harbor)

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  12. These are both amazing in different ways. Yes, they are true art.

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  13. In my book there is nothing like "true art" what art is depends on who makes it, who sees it and when. :) Love both in different ways.

    For myself, my work rarely ends the way I thought it would. Pencil and paint have a way of go their own way. :)

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